2016 Honda Pilot stability control problems

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

The contact owns a 2016 Honda Pilot. The contact stated that there was an abnormal engine knocking sound coming from the vehicle. There were recurring oil leaks and a misfire coming from the engine. The engine warning light was flashing. Additionally, the ESC, hill start assist, VSA, EPS, and steering low warning lights were illuminated. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic who confirmed the codes. The contact associated the failure with NHTSA Campaign Number: 23V751000 (Engine and Engine Cooling). The local dealer was not contacted, but the vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer was not contacted. The failure mileage was approximately 160,000.

NHTSA complaint #11708799 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

I'VE HAD SEVERAL ISSUES WITH MY 2016 HONDA PILOT IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS. I CURRENTLY HAVE 110K MILES ON MY VEHICLE BUT MY PROBLEMS BEGAN AT AROUND 80K. MY CHECK ENGINE LIGHT AND SEVERAL OTHER LIGHTS ILLUMINATE CONSTANTLY. AT FIRST THEY WOULD LIGHT UP AND GO AWAY. BROUGHT IT TO SERVICE. THEY SAID THERE WERE NO RECALLS AND THEY CHANGE MY SPARK PLUGS AND TOLD ME TO DRIVE MY CAR ON AT LEAST A HALF TANK OF GAS. PROBLEM CONTINUED AND THEN MY CAR STARTED RUNNING ROUGH AND IDLING ROUGHER. I BROUGHT IT IN AGAIN AND WAS TOLD I NEEDED TO REPLACE MY FUEL INJECTORS. THAT WAS TAKEN CARE AND I STILL HAVE A CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ILLUMINATES ALONG WITH EMISSIONS SYSTEM PROBLEM WARMING AND MY CAR STILL RUNS ROUGH AND HAS TROUBLE ACCELERATING. SONG WITH ALL OF THESE ISSUES I'VE ALSO HAD TO REPLACE MY IGNITION AND KEY FOB AND MY AUTO START IS NOT WORKING. I HAVE OVER A100K ON THE CAR WHICH I UNDERSTAND CAN CAUSE WEAR AND TEAR BUT ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS FAR EXCEED THE DEFINITION OF NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR. I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS A RECALL ON ANYTHING AND WHAT CAN BE DONE TO REMEDY THESE SITUATIONS. MY CAR IS AT SERVICE YET AGAIN TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING IT TO RUN SO ROUGH. ANY FEEDBACK WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU.

NHTSA complaint #11363548 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

WHEN STOPPED AT A BUSY INTERSECTION ON A CITY STREET, THE AUTOMATIC STOP-IDLE FUNCTION DID NOT RESTART AND MY CAR STALLED WHEN THE LIGHT TURNED GREEN. MULTIPLE WARNING LIGHTS FLASHED AT ATTEMPTS TO RESTART VEHICLE. I WAS UNABLE TO RESTART THE CAR FOR APPROXIMATELY 10 MINUTES, CAUSING A SIGNIFICANT SAFETY ISSUE, AS I HAD 3 CHILDREN IN THE CAR ON THE WAY TO SCHOOL. WE COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN REAR ENDED AS WE WERE BLOCKING TRAFFIC. THE CAR WAS TOWED TO A DEALER FOR A REPAIR. AT THIS POINT, I QUESTION THE REPAIR, AS MY CAR HAS COME CLOSE TO STALLING AGAIN 3 TIMES SINCE THIS OCCURRENCE.

NHTSA complaint #11361248 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

WAS AT A LIGHT ELECTRONICA STOP AND GOAL CONTROL KICKED IN THE CAR WENT OFF WHEN I WENT TO HIT THE EXCELERATOR TO GO THE CAR DID NOT RESTART JUST THE ELECTRONICA STAYED ON SHUT THE CAR TOTALLY OFF TRY TO RESTART IT WOULD NOT START TURN THE CAR OFF AGAIN TRIED TO RESTART IT THE CAR STARTED AND DROVE FINE

NHTSA complaint #11355417 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

INTERMITTENTLY RECEIVE DASH ERROR CODE "'KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM ' " IT COMES AND GOES. ALSO VEHICLE STRUGGLES TO RESTART WHEN THE A ENGINE IDLE ENGAGES AT A STOP LIGHT. THIS HAS CREATED SAFETY ISSUES IN THE WINTER WHEN I CAN'T GO AT A GREEN LIGHT OR OTHERS AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION AND MY VEHICLE WON'T START. THERE IS NO WAY TO FULLY DEACTIVATE THIS FEATURE EXCEPT TO SHUT IT OFF AFTER TURNING IN CAR EVERY TIME. THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE THAT SERIOUSLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

NHTSA complaint #11343581 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

#1 KEYLESS REMOTE ENTRY HAS NOT WORKED FOR OVER A YEAR NOW, DEALERSHIP WANTS TO CHARGE $300. AUTOMATIC LOCK FEATURE IS NOT WORKING ANY MORE. BASED ON MY RESEARCH IT IS A KNOWN ISSUE THAT HONDA KEEP GUESSING ON AND CHARGING FOR REPLACING, WITH NO REAL FIX. #2 WHEN DRIVING, ALL OF THE SUDDEN ALL ENGINE LIGHTS START COMING ON, BREAK, POWER STEERING, VEHICLE STABILITY...ALL OF THEM ONE BY ONE. AT THE TIME MY PILOT STARTED "PULLING", AND RPM GAGE WAS JUMPING UP AND DOWN. A FEW DAYS LATER TOOK IT TO THE MECHANIC AND THIS TIME, IT ONLY HAD THE ENGINE LIGHT ON AND A CODE P0304 WAS DETECTED. CHANGED ALL SPARK PLUGS AND COILS, ENGINE LIGHT WENT AWAY FOR A WEEK. AGAIN, DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY ALL LIGHTS START COMING UP AGAIN AND THE SAME "PULLING" HAPPENS. THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT SAFE TO BE DRIVING ON. OTHER HONDA PILOT SAME YEAR DRIVERS ARE HAVING THE SAME ISSUE.

NHTSA complaint #11338018 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

DRIVING AT 35 MPH ON MY WAY HOME ON A SIDE STREET AND MY CAR JOLTED AND STALLED AND SEVERAL (5)WARNING LIGHTS CAME ON. VEHICLE STABILITY, BRAKE, TRAMMISION WARNING, AND A COUPLE OTHER LIGHTS. I TURNED THE VEHICLE OFF AND RESTARTED THE CAR. I TRIED TO DRIVE IT IN A PARKING LOT SO I WAS ABLE TO GET SAFELY OUT OF ONCOMING TRAFFIC . AND IT WOULD NOT SHIFT PROPERLY AND I COULDN+T DRIVE IT AT ALL AS I WOULD TRY TO START AND IT WOJLD REV TO 4000-5000 RPMS AND WOULD POP IN AND OUT FROM GEAR TO PARK.. I HAD IT TOWED FROM THE PARKING LOT I WAS IN TO MY MACHANIC . MY CONCERN IS THAT I DON+T FEEL SAFE DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY WITH SHIFTING ISSUES, STALLS AND JOLTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IF I WERE ON THE HIGHWAY WHEN THAT HAPPENED, GOING AT 65 MPH, IT WOULD HAVE CAUSED UNNECESSARY ACCIDENTS. IT+S EXTREMELYNDANGEROUS WITH MY CHILDREN IN THE CAR AS WELL AS INNOCENT BYSTANDERS STILL NO RECALL FOR MY VEHICLE.

NHTSA complaint #11331897 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

'KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM' APPEAR AFTER 40,XXX MILEAGE. THE HONDA DEALER IS JUST GUESSING RIGHT NOW THEY REPLACE MY BATTERY BUT AFTER A DAY THE SAME ERROR REAPPEAR. THERE IS DEFINITELY A MANUFACTURE DEFECT AS THERE SO MANY ISSUES REGARDING THIS IF YOU GOOGLE IT. MY CAR WONT START THEN GOT TOWED TO THE DEALER AND IT MIGHT DIE AGAIN NOW THAT IT REAPPEAR.

NHTSA complaint #11324734 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

THE CAR THREW MULTIPLE ERRORS INCLUDING EMISSION SYSTEM, POWER STEERING, VEHICLE STABILITY, TRAILER STABILITY, HILL ASSIST, AND ROAD DEPARTURE MITIGATION. RESULT WAS KEY SAFETY FEATURES, INCLUDING AUTONOMOUS BRAKING, ROAD DEPARTURE MITIGATION, POWER STEERING, AND LANE KEEPING WERE RENDERED INOPERABLE. THE ENGINE POWER WAS REDUCED WHILE IN MOTION AT 50 MPH. THE ERRORS CAME ON SHORTLY AFTER IGNITION WAS ENGAGED.

NHTSA complaint #11324476 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

WARNING LIGHT KEEPS INDICATING THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH MY KEYLESS REMOTE. I'VE CHANGED THE BATTERY, BUT THAT DIDN'T HELP. SOMETIMES THE LIGHT DOESN'T COME ON. IT'S ABOUT 50% OF THE TIME. IT HAPPENS WHEN I FIRST START THE CAR AS WELL AS WHEN I'M IN MOTION.

NHTSA complaint #11318608 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM, WARNING COMES AND GOES, CAR WONT START AT TIMES

NHTSA complaint #11311708 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

DURING IDLE (SUCH AS AT A RED LIGHT), THE AUTO ENGINE IDLE STOP FUNCTION CAUSES THE ENGINE TO CUT OUT (THIS IS NORMAL) AND THE ENGINE IS SUPPOSED TO COME BACK TO LIFE WHEN THE BRAKE IS RELEASED. HOWEVER, SOMETIMES THE ENGINE AND ELECTRICAL SYSTEM CUT OUT COMPLETELY (MOST EASILY IDENTIFIED BY THE RADIO CUTTING OUT) AND THE ENGINE DOES NOT COME BACK ON WHEN THE BRAKE IS RELEASED AND THE CAR MUST BE PUT INTO PARK AND RESTARTED, WHICH CAN TAKE QUITE A BIT OF TIME - IT OFTEN HAS TROUBLE RESTARTING WHEN THIS OCCURS. THERE IS USUALLY SOME KIND OF ERROR CODE WHEN THIS OCCURS; THE CODE VARIES BUT IS MOST OFTEN "COLLISION MITIGATION SYSTEM PROBLEM'. THIS CONDITION CAN BE QUITE HAZARDOUS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IN AN INTERSECTION. THERE IS AN OVERRIDE OF THE ENGINE IDLE STOP, BUT IT MUST BE ACTIVATED EACH TIME THE CAR IS RESTARTED, WHICH IS EASILY FORGOTTEN. THIS PROBLEM WAS OCCURRING SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK UNTIL I STARTED USING THE OVERRIDE.

NHTSA complaint #11310802 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

ONCE MY HONDA PILOT HIT MILES OF 34,000, DASHBOARD IS SHOWS WARNING "KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM". SHORTLY AFTER I AM HAVING PROBLEM WITH START BUTTON WHICH WON'T START ONE PRESS, I HAVE TO PRESS MANY TIMES TO START THE CAR... I HAVE CHANGED MY KEY FOB BATTERY, AND STILL HAVE SAME PROBLEMS. DEALERSHIP WON'T COVER THIS ISSUE ONCE THE CAR DROVE OVER 30,000 MILES. I DID RESEARCH ON THIS ISSUE SPECIFICALLY HONDA PILOT 2016 MODEL. THERE ARE A LOT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAME ISSUES. I AM AFRAID THAT MY CAR WON'T START ONE DAY. NEVER HAD ISSUE WITH OTHER HONDA MODELS... ALSO THIS MODEL 2016 HONDA PILOT HAS ISSUE WITH MUSIC DASHBOARD, EXAMPLE: THE RADIO DISPLAY WILL BLACK OUT DURING WHEN I AM DRIVING, SO HAD TO TURN OFF MY CAR AND TURN ON TO GET MY RADIO DISPLAY BACK OR ALL OF SUDDEN I CAN NOT CHANGE THE MUSIC VOLUME ETC... GOD KNOWS WHAT IS THE NEXT PROBLEM?!

NHTSA complaint #11309018 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

MULTIPLE WARNING LIGHTS ON THE DASH, CHECK ENGINE LIGHT IS ON INCLUDING ROAD DEPARTURE MITIGATION WARNING, TRAILER STABILITY ASSIST WARNING, HILL START ASSIST WARNING, VEHICLE STABILITY ASSIST WARNING, EMISSIONS SYSTEM CONTROL WARNING, ALL WHEEL DRIVE SYSTEM WARNING, POWER STEERING WARNING AND ACC WARNING WHERE ALL CAME UP AT THE SAME TIME WITH A SUDDEN JERK AND CAR CANNOT GO BEYOND 20 MI/HR WHILE I WAS DRIVING IN THE HIGHWAY THAT ALMOST GOT ME INTO AN ACCIDENT WITH AN INDIVIDUAL ON THE REAR ALMOST BUMPED ME. NOW I'M AFRAID TO DRIVE IT. I ACTUALLY GOT THE ATTENTION OF MY DEALER (NORRIS HONDA) WHEN THE JERKING STARTED AT THE MILEAGE OF 34,100 MILES AND HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES BUT WITH NO WARNING LIGHT COMING ON. THEY DID A TEST DRIVE AND IT SO HAPPENED THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN WHEN THEY TESTED IT AND NO CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ON. THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY HAVE HAD SEVERAL INCIDENCE OF THE SAME PROBLEM WITH OTHER CUSTOMERS WITH HONDA PILOT 2016 AND 2017 AND IS A COMMON ISSUE AND ENDED UP HAVING TO CHANGE THE FUEL INJECTORS AND HAVE SOLVED THEIR PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM THOUGH IS, MY CAR IS ONLY 3YRS OLD AND HAVING ALL THESE PROBLEMS NOW AND THEY CHARGE $1800.00 TO CHANGE THE INJECTORS, WHICH I THINK IS WAY TOO MUCH FOR A FAIRLY NEW CAR WITH DEALER BEING AWARE OF THE FIRST JERKING PROBLEMS BEFORE THE WARRANTY ENDED. I HAVE BEEN HAVING ALL HONDA CARS SINCE I STARTED HAVING A CAR BECAUSE OF ITS RELIABILITY AND PERFORMANCE AND NOW THIS HAPPENED. IT HAS BEEN A VERY COMMON PROBLEM BUT NO RECALL HAS BEEN MADE. I HOPE THAT THERE WILL BE NO ACCIDENTS WITH ONE LOSING LIFE BEFORE A RECALL IS MADE. I HOPE YOU CAN HELP ME OUT WITH THIS, THANK YOU

NHTSA complaint #11298650 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

CAR BRAKES BY ITSELF, SHAKES THE STEERING WHEEL AND SHUTS OFF AND LOSES POWER RANGING IN SPEEDS FROM 20 -60MPH. ON DOUBLE LANE ROADS TO INTERSTATES IN THE RAIN AND SUNNY DRY DAYS.

NHTSA complaint #11281633 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

FIRST A LOT OF DIFFERENT LIGHTS WERE COMING ON SAYING DIFFERENT STUFF WAS WRONG. SO HAD IT FIXED. THEY REPLACED THE SPRING HARNESS IN THE STEERING COLUMN. THEN NOT LONG AFTER THE BATTERY DIED REPLACED IT AND NOW THE BATTERY DIED AGAIN THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE KEYLESS REMOTE START PROBLEM LIGHT TURNED ON AND THE MITIGATION SYSTEM DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK IT JUST WORK THEN SOMETIMES DOESN'T WORK, THEIR IS NO LIGHT THAT COME ON TO TELL ME IT NOT WORKING I JUST KNOW BE I'M DRIVING AND MIGHT RAFT I DRIFT OVER A WHITE LINE AND NOTHING HAPPENS AND SOMETIMES IT WORK LET'S ME KNOW I'M GOING OVER THE WHITE LINE ALSO IF I'M COMING UP ON ANOTHER CAR TO FAST IT DOESN'T LET ME NO BY BEEPING AND SOMETIMES IT DOES AND THE CENTER TOUCH SCREEN DOESN'T WORK AT ALL AND THE AC/HEAT DOESN'T WORK EITHER. MY PILOT ONLY HAS 45,000 AND ABOUT 38,000 WHEN I FIRST STARTED HAVING THE PROBLEMS.

NHTSA complaint #11256906 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

MY VEHICLE HAS ABOUT 50K MILES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I RECEIVE A DASHBOARD MESSAGE THAT SAYS "KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM" WHEN I TURN ON THE VEHICLE. THE MESSAGE STAYS DISPLAYED WHILE THE VEHICLE IS ON, AND WILL ONLY GO OFF WHEN THE VEHICLE IS TURNED OFF.

NHTSA complaint #11234541 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM LIGHT COMES OFF AND ON.

NHTSA complaint #11232415 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

I WAS DRIVING AT 15 MPH AND MY CAR JOLTED AND STALLED AND SEVERAL (5) WARNING LIGHTS CAME ON. VEHICLE STABILITY, BRAKE, POWER STEERING, AND A COUPLE OTHER LIGHTS. I TURNED THE VEHICLE OFF AND RESTARTED THE CAR. I TRIED TO DRIVE IT A FEW MILES AND IT WOULD NOT SHIFT PROPERLY AND I COULDN'T DRIVE IT MORE THAN ABOUT 20 MPH. I HAD IT TOWED FROM HOME TO THE CLOSEST HONDA DEALERSHIP. THE VEHICLE HAD AROUND 40K MILES ON IT AT THE TIME. HONDA SAID IT'S A KNOWN ISSUE WITH A BULLETIN - STATING THAT THE CAM SHAFT ASSEMBLY NEEDED TO BE REPLACED ALONG WITH A SENSOR. THEY TOLD ME THE CAM SHAFT ASSEMBLY WAS UNDER THE POWER TRAIN WARRANTY BUT I HAD TO PAY FOR THE SENSOR. WHEN I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH, I FOUND THAT HONDA WAS GIVING EXTENDED WARRANTIES TO NEWER MODELS HAVING THE SAME ISSUE AND EVEN DOING RECALLS BUT MY VIN DIDN'T QUALIFY. A FEW MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD AND MY CAR STARTED HAVING SHIFTING PROBLEMS AGAIN. SO, I TAKE IT IN AND THEY ARE SAYING THE TRANSMISSION NEEDS TO BE SERVICED BUT THE SERVICE ONLY GETS A LITTLE BIT OF THE FLUID OUT SO THEY WANTED TO DO THE SERVICE 3 TIMES AND CHARGED ME FOR DOING THE SAME THING 3 TIMES. AFTER SOME RESEARCH, I FIND OUT THAT IT'S A KNOWN ISSUE THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO GIVE A LIMITED WARRANTY ON UP 80K MILES. MY CONCERN IS THAT I DON'T FEEL SAFE DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY WITH SHIFTING ISSUES, STALLS AND JOLTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITHIN 4 MONTHS OF EACH OTHER. IF I WERE ON THE HIGHWAY WHEN THAT HAPPENED, GOING AT 60 MPH, IT WOULD HAVE CAUSED UNNECESSARY ACCIDENTS. IT'S DANGEROUS BUT, STILL NO RECALL FOR MY VEHICLE AND IT'S LIKE FIGHTING TOOTH AND TOENAIL WITH HONDA TO GET THEM TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHEN OR IF IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN. I PURCHASED MY HONDA BRAND NEW. THIS VEHICLE NEEDS TO BE OFF THE ROADS UNTIL THE ISSUES ARE FIXED. I THINK I HAVE A LEMON!

NHTSA complaint #11223175 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM

NHTSA complaint #11204686 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

MY VEHICLE JUST DROVE 20K MILES, I AM GETTING A POPUP "KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM" VERY FREQUENTLY WHEN EVER I START MY CAR. MINE IS 2016 HONDA PILOT TOURING AWD. I WENT TO DEALER, FIRST DAY HE RESET SOME CODE AND THE WARNING MESSAGE WENT OFF. BUT IMMEDIATELY ON NEXT DAY IT CAME AGAIN. I WENT TO DEALER AGAIN AND THEY DID 2 HOURS OF INVESTIGATION AND TOLD , THEY WILL REPLACE THE BATTERY AND THEY ORDERED A PART. YESTERDAY MY PART WAS READY AND THEY SAID THEY HAVE REPLACED THE PART AND REPLACED THE FOB BATTERIES. THE WARNING WAS WENT OFF ON THAT DAY BUT, IT CAME AGAIN TODAY. I AM TOTALLY FRUSTRATED WITH THIS BEHAVIOR. WHEN I SEARCH ON THE FORUMS MOST OF THE PILOT CUSTOMERS HAD THE SAME ISSUE AND THEY HAVE REPORTED IN THIS FORUM. I AM NOT SURE HOW YOU WILL TAKE IT UP BUT I AM BIT CONCERNED ON THE VEHICLE SAFETY HOW IT BEHAVIOR. I AM GETTING THIS MESSAGE WHEN EVER I START THE VECHILE. TRIED WITH BOTH KEY FOBS AND WITH NEW BATTERIES BUT NO LUCK. MY DEALER IS HONDA OF CONCORD, BRUTON SMITH BLVD, CONCORD. NC

NHTSA complaint #11193913 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

I AM GETTING A "KEYLESS START PROBLEM" ERROR ON MY DASH BUT MY CAR IS WORKING FINE. I HAVE ALREADY REPLACED FOB BATTERIES AND RESET SYSTEM BY DISCONNECTING BATTERY. FROM MY RESEARCH ONLINE, THIS HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE FOR HONDA PILOTS.

NHTSA complaint #11185896 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

OUR 3 YEAR OLD CAR AT ABOUT 28,000 MILES STARTED DISPLAYING THE WARNING MESSAGE "KEYLESS START SYSTEM PROBLEM" NEARLY ALMOST EVERY TIME IT IS STARTED. (NOTE, THIS PROBLEM DEVELOPED THE MONTH AFTER IT'S WARRANTY EXPIRED...) WHEN THE MESSAGE FIRST DISPLAYED WE TOOK IT TO THE DEALER, THEY COULD NOT FIND ANY PROBLEM WITH THE STARTING SYSTEM, ONLY THAT OUR ELECTRONICS SYSTEM NEEDED AN UPDATE. WITH THE UPDATE, THE MESSAGE DISAPPEARED FOR A FEW WEEKS, BUT HAS NOW RETURNED AND IS APPEARING NEARLY EVERY TIME WE START THE CAR. THIS HAPPENS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER MINE OR MY WIFE'S KEY IS USED, AND CHANGING THE BATTERY IN THE KEYS HAS NOT CHANGED ANYTHING EITHER. WE HAVE NEVER HAD AN ACTUAL ISSUE WITH STARTING THE CAR, IT'S JUST THAT WE NOW HAVE TO LIVE WITH THIS CONSTANT WARNING LIGHT. IN LOOKING ONLINE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE FORUMS DEDICATED TO THIS EXACT ISSUE FOR 2016 HONDA PILOT'S AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS FAIRLY WELL ESTABLISHED ISSUE FOR THIS MAKE / MODEL.

NHTSA complaint #11173810 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

THE TPMS SYSTEM ISN'T MONITORING THE WHEELS SENSORS. THE SENSORS WERE CHECK AND ARE GOOD. THE PROBLEM IS THAT TPMS SYSTEM THAT NOT APPEAR IN THE CONTROL PANEL TO RESET THIS. THE LIGHT OF TPMS SYSTEM IS ON ALL THE TIME. THIS OCCURED TO 37,000 MILLES APROX.

NHTSA complaint #11170700 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

I WAS DRIVING IN STOP AND GO TRAFFIC ON A FREEWAY, MY FOOT WAS ON THE BRAKE AND CAR WAS IN DRIVE, WHEN I TOOK MY FOOT OFF BREAK AND PUSHED GAS PEDAL THE CAR WOULD NOT GO. I TRIED TO PUT IT IN PARK AND IT WOULD NOT GO, I TRIED TO TURN OFF CAR AND IT WOULDN'T TURN OFF. THE MESSAGE ON THE DASHBOARD SAID TO PUSH BRAKE AND TURN ON CAR (SAME MESSAGE AS WHEN I REMOTE START CAR) AFTER 2 SOLID MINUTES, THE CAR FINALLY DROVE. THE PROBLEM SEEMS TO BE IMPACTED BY THE ECON MODE WHICH SHUTS OFF ENGINE WHEN BRAKE PEDAL IS FULLY ENGAGED. YOU ARE ABLE TO TURN THIS MODE OFF ON THE GEAR SHIFT BUT HAVE TO DO IT EVERY TIME YOU START THE CAR.

NHTSA complaint #11165626 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

I'VE BEEN HAVING ISSUES WITH MY CAR STALLING WHEN I TRY TO DRIVE AFTER BEING STOPPED AT A RED LIGHT. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN EVERY TIME BUT AT RANDOM TIMES. I HAD THIS ISSUE BACK IN FEBRUARY 2018 AND TOOK IT TO MY LOCAL HONDA DEALER IN JACKSONVILLE AND THEY HADN'T SEEN THE ISSUE BEFORE. THEY REPORTED IT TO AMERICAN HONDA, TOOK A FEW DAYS AND THEN REPLACED THE STARTER AND SAID IT WAS A FAILED STARTER ISSUE. IT WAS WORKING FINE UNTIL AUGUST 2018 WHEN IT STALLED AGAIN. IT INSTRUCTED ME TO PUT THE CAR IN PARK AND THEN START THE ENGINE AGAIN. I TOOK IT TO THE LOCAL DEALER AN HOUR AFTER IT HAPPENED BUT THEY WANTED ME TO LEAVE MY CAR SO THEY COULD REPORT IT AND I'M A STAY AT HOME MOM AND NEED TO HAVE MY VEHICLE SO I TOLD HIM I'D TRY TO BRING IT BACK ANOTHER DAY BUT INSTEAD DECIDED TO REPORT THE PROBLEM DIRECTLY TO HONDA TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY UPDATE OR CORRECTION AT THIS TIME. HONDA DIRECTED ME TO REPORT IT TO A DEALER SO I'VE SINCE REPORTED THIS ISSUE TO ANOTHER DEALER IN ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA WHO IS AWARE OF MY VEHICLE HAVING THIS ISSUE. TO DATE, IT HAS NOT OCCURRED AGAIN BUT I ANTICIPATE THAT THIS WILL BE A RECURRING PROBLEM WITH THE CAR IF IT WASN'T A STARTER ISSUE. THE ISSUE SEEMS TO OCCUR WHEN I'M IN STOP AND GO TRAFFIC AND I PRESS DOWN ON THE BRAKE PEDAL AND GO TO RELEASE IT TO DRIVE THE CAR WHEN THE ENGINE IS GOING INTO THE AUTO-IDLE FUNCTION - ALMOST AS IF IT HESITATES TO START BACK UP BECAUSE IT WAS TOO QUICK OF A RESPONSE FOR THE AUTO-IDLE FUNCTION TO TAKE.

NHTSA complaint #11142571 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

MY VEHICLE WAS IN MOTION ON A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET WHEN SEVERAL ALERTS WENT OFF ON MY DASHBOARD: ROAD DEPARTURE MITIGATION SYSTEM PROBLEM, TRAILER STABILITY ASSIST PROBLEM, HILL START ASSIST PROBLEM, VEHICLE STABILITY ASSIST PROBLEM, EMISSIONS SYSTEM PROBLEM, POWER STEERING SYSTEM PROBLEM. I COULD FIND NO REASON FOR THESE ALERTS. I TOOK MY CAR INTO A DEALERSHIP THE NEXT DAY AND WAS TOLD THERE WAS NO ISSUE AND THE LIGHTS WERE TURNED OFF. 10 DAYS LATER THEY ALL CAME ON AGAIN AS I WAS DRIVING ON A LOCAL STREET. THE NEXT DAY WHEN I WENT TO TAKE MY CAR TO THE DEALER, THE LIGHTS HAD TURNED OFF. I TOOK IT IN ANYWAY, AND THEY AGAIN SAID THERE WAS NO ISSUE. I REPORTED THE ISSUE TO HONDA CORPORATION AND WAS TOLD BY ONE AGENT THAT THIS WASN'T THE FIRST TIME THE ISSUE HAD COME UP IN A NEWER MODEL PILOT. AGAIN 2 DAYS AGO, ALL THE LIGHTS CAME ON AND NOW ALSO THE BRAKE ASSIST ALERT IS ALSO ON. I WILL TAKE IT TO THE DEALERSHIP AGAIN. I AM CONCERNED ALL THE FALSE ALARMS MAY BE HIDING AN UNDERLYING ISSUE THAT COULD RESULT IN A DANGEROUS ACCIDENT. I ALSO FEEL THAT HONDA GLOBAL IS NOT TAKING ME SERIOUSLY AS I AM ACTIVE DUTY STATIONED OVERSEAS AND HAVE TO RELY ON LOCAL HONDA DEALERSHIPS THAT DO NOT HAVE MUCH EXPERIENCE WITH THE HONDA PILOT. THE DATES OF THE LIGHTS WERE 17 SEPT, 27 SEPT, AND 6 OCT 2018.

NHTSA complaint #11139016 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

HONDA PILOT 2016 MODEL WITH 30000 MILES HAS STALLED ON HIGHWAY INTERSTATE SUDDENLY WITHIN 2 MIN OF SIGNALLING MESSAGES OF ENGINE TEMPERATURE TOO HOT, TRANSMISSION SYSTEM PROBLEM, EMISSION SYSTEM PROBLEM ETC...AND WENT INTO NEUTRAL MODE WITH FAILURE OF BRAKES. CAR WOULD NOT RESPOND TO BRAKES AS IT WENT TO NEUTRAL STATE. ALSO NOTICED A BURNING OR GASOLINE SMELL INSIDE THE CAR . I HAD TO APPLY PARKING BRAKE TO STOP THE VEHICLE FROM MOVING ON HIGHWAY WHICH COULD HAVE LED TO A MAJOR CRASH. AS I WAS NOT ON THE SPEEDING LANES, THINGS WERE NOT WORSE. I HAD TO CALL 911 AND THEY HELPED ME MOVE MY CAR TO A SHOULDER AND LATER TOWED TO HONDA DEALERSHIP. THIS WAS THE SECOND TIME HAPPENING FOR THE SAME ISSUE WHERE EARLIER IT HAPPENED ON A LOCAL ROAD. THE SAME DEALER KEPT THE CAR FOR A WEEK AND RETURNED THE CAR SAYING ITS FIXED.WITHIN 30 MIN OF DRIVING INTO THE HIGHWAY, IT STALLED AGAIN THIS TIME THE SITUATION BEING ON HIGHWAY. THE CAR IS NOW RETURNED TO SAME DEALER WHO FIXED FIRST TIME AND IS UNDER INVESTIGATION.

NHTSA complaint #11138820 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

[2016 HONDA PILOT EXL AWD WITH SENSING, 28 K MILES AND 2.4 YEARS SINCE PURCHASE] ON FRIDAY AUG/24/2018 WHILE DRIVING HOME (AROUND 40MPH) THE VSA LIGHT CAME ON AND STAYED ON FOR BARELY 4-5 SECONDS AND THEN TURNED OFF. DID NOT NOTICE ANY MAJOR ISSUES THEN. ON SUNDAY 26/AUG/2018 WHILE DRIVING AT AROUND 30-35 MPH, THE CAR SUDDENLY LOST POWER AND CAME TO A COMPLETE STOP ALMOST LIKE THE BRAKES HAD BEEN APPLIED (DID NOT NOTICE THE ORANGE BRAKE SIGN OR THE COLLISION WARNING BEEP SOUND). I WAS ON THE RIGHT LANE WITH NO ONE BEHIND OR AHEAD OF ME AND NO OBSTACLES IN FRONT. TURNED ON THE HAZARD LIGHT AND THEN NOTICED THAT THE VSA LIGHT WAS ON. CAR WOULD NOT MOVE AND JUST KEPT REVVING WHEN I TRIED TO ACCELERATE. PUT THE CAR IN PARK AND THEN IN DRIVE, NO CHANGE. PUSHED THE VSA BUTTON TO TURN OFF VSA AND BOTH THE VSA LIGHT AND THE VSA OFF LIGHT STAYED ON BUT THE CAR WOULD STILL NOT MOVE. SHUT DOWN THE CAR AND RESTARTED IT AFTER WHICH THE LIGHTS WENT OFF, AND THE CAR STARTED MOVING (ALTHOUGH SLOWLY). DROVE HOME WITH VSA TURNED OFF AND AT A SPEED OF AROUND 20-30 MPH. THE ABRUPT BRAKING/STOPPING WAS PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS AND WOULD HAVE CAUSED A COLLISION EVEN IN REGULAR TRAFFIC ON ANY OTHER DAY. NOTE: THE KEY FOB WAS LOW ON BATTERY AND THE ONLY OTHER WARNING I HAD ON THE CONSOLE WAS ONE INFORMING ABOUT THE KEY FOB BATTERY BEING LOW.

NHTSA complaint #11122729 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)

DURING EXTREMELY COLD WEATHER, ALL SYSTEM FAILURE INDICATIONS SCROLL ON THE DISPLAY. HAPPENS INTERMITTENTLY AND WILL RESET ITSELF OVER TIME. I RENDERS THE SYSTEMS USELESS AS WELL. ALARMS INCLUDE HILL START ASSIST, TRAILER STABILITY ASSIST, ROAD DEPARTURE MITIGATION ASSIST, EMISSIONS, AWD AND EPS. MANY OF THESE SYSTEMS ARE SAFETY FEATURES AND NO LONGER RESPOND UNTIL BATTERY CABLE IS REMOVED OR RESET AFTER TIME.

NHTSA complaint #11102460 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.