Owners have filed 77 complaints
about the 2003 Land Rover Discovery II with NHTSA between 2002 and 2016.
The largest single group is the engine & cooling.
Across this model's run it ranks 1 of 6 worst.
The letter says how bad. This says what kind — whether this year drew
an unusual number of complaints, unusually dangerous
ones, or failures that arrived unusually early.
The dashed ring is 50 — the national norm. Further out is worse.
Complaint volume — 83
Against the median year of the Land Rover Discovery II. 50 means typical for this
model; 100 means roughly double.
Severity — 100
27.3% of these complaints
involved a crash, fire, injury or death, against a national rate of
9.7%.
Early failure — 26
15% of failures with a mileage on record happened under
36,000 miles, against a national rate of
29%.
How 2003 compares with every other Land Rover Discovery II
NHTSA files every complaint against a named sub-assembly, not just a
system. This is the difference between knowing it was "the engine" and
knowing which part of it — the list to hand a mechanic.
Odometer readings owners gave when they filed. About half of all
complaints include one.
1,000 – 9,999 miles
69.1%
10,000 – 24,999 miles
23.0%
25,000 – 49,999 miles
1015.2%
50,000 – 74,999 miles
2740.9%
75,000 – 99,999 miles
1725.8%
100,000 – 149,999 miles
11.5%
150,000+ miles
34.5%
When owners complained
A spike years after the car went on sale usually means a part wearing
out on schedule across the whole fleet — the kind of pattern no single
owner can see from inside their own car.
Dec 2002peak 6Dec 2016
Recalls on the 2003 Land Rover Discovery II
A complaint is one owner's allegation. A recall is the point at which
the manufacturer or a regulator agreed the defect is real and dangerous
enough to fix for free — however old the car is.
United States — NHTSA
12E010000
POWER TRAIN:DRIVELINE:DRIVESHAFT
JAGUAR LAND ROVER NORTH AMERICA, INC. (LAND ROVER) IS RECALLING CERTAIN REAR DRIVESHAFT COUPLINGS, LAND ROVER BRANDED PART NUMBER TVF100010, MANUFACTURED FROM APRIL 2011 THROUGH NOVEMBER 2011, SOLD FOR USE AS SERVICE PARTS FOR CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 1995-1999 DISCOVERY, 1999-2004 DISCOVERY II, AND 1995 RANGE ROVER CLASSIC VEHICLES. SOME OF THE REAR DRIVESHAFT COUPLINGS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN MANUFACTURED TO THE REQUIRED ENGINEERING DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS AND MAY EXHIBIT THE ONSET OF JOINT SEPARATION, PRECLUDED BY DRIVE LINE VIBRATION.
Risk: IF THIS INCREASED VIBRATION WARNING SIGN IS IGNORED, CATASTROPHIC FAILURE OF THE DRIVE COUPLING CAN OCCUR. THE DRIVESHAFT MAY DETACH FROM THE VEHICLE WHILE IN MOTION RESULTING IN LOSS OF DRIVE AND LOSS OF TRANSMISSION PARK FUNCTIONALITY, INCREASING THE RISK OF A VEHICLE CRASH AND/OR INJURY.
04V006000
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
ON CERTAIN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES, THE ACTIVE CORNERING ENHANCEMENT (ACE) PUMP BANJO BOLT LOOSES TORQUE AND ALLOWS FLUID TO LEAK PAST THE JOINT.
Risk: THE FLUID FROM THE PUMP JOINT CAN IGNITE, RESULTING IN AN UNDER HOOD FIRE.
04V005000
SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:ANTILOCK/TRACTION CONTROL/ELECTRONIC LIMITED SLIP
CERTAIN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS NO. 105, "HYDRAULIC AND ELECTRIC BRAKE SYSTEMS," AND NO. 135, "PASSENGER CAR BRAKE SYSTEMS." THE ANTI-LOCK BRAKING SYSTEM (ABS) MODULATOR VALVE COVER RETAINING BOLTS CAN CRACK DUE TO STRESSES TRANSMITTED BY THE FLEXING VALVE COVERS.
Risk: THIS CAN PRODUCE AN UNEXPECTED INCREASE IN STOPPING DISTANCE, WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR TOTAL LOSS OF SERVICE BRAKING FUNCTION, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
Canada — Transport Canada
Canada runs its own recall programme, and its campaigns do not
always mirror the American ones.
Recall 20120995 units in Canada
Powertrain
Certain vehicles may have received an incorrectly manufactured rear driveshaft coupling (part number TVF100010) as a replacement part during service. Drive coupling failure could allow the driveshaft to detach from the vehicle, resulting in a loss of propulsion which, in conjunction with traffic and road condition, and the driver's reactions, could increase the risk of a crash. As well, a driveshaft separating from the vehicle could strike another vehicle, stationary object, or bystander. These issues could result in property damage and/or personal injury. Correction: Dealers will replace the driveshaft coupling.
Recall 2004024511 units in Canada
Suspension
On certain vehicles, the ACE (Active Cornering Enhancement) pump banjo bolt looses torque and allows fluid to leak past the joint. When the fluid supply is exhausted, a diagnostic warning light will be illuminated and the ACE system will go into a fail-safe mode. The leak of fluid from the pump joint can ignite resulting in an underhood fire. Correction: Dealer will inspect for leakage of fluid or wetness around the joint area. If no leakage or wetness is evident, banjo bolt will be re-torqued. If a leakage of fluid or wetness is evident, the banjo bolt and Dowty washer will be replaced.
Recall 20040233,527 units in Canada
Brakes
On certain vehicles, the ABS Modulator valve cover retaining bolts can crack due to stresses transmitted by the flexing valve covers. This is a result of significant operation of traction or hill descent control, primarily associated with extensive off-road use. This defect can produce an unexpected increase in stopping distance, with the potential for total loss of service braking function, which would increase the likelihood of a crash. Correction: Dealer will strengthen the ABS Modulator assembly valve covers and replace the retaining bolts.
Reports where the owner recorded a crash, a fire, an injury or a death.
Lodi, CA2 injured
AIR BAGS
WE WERE DRIVING STRAIGHT ON I 5. IN RED BLUFF CALIFORNIA HEADED TO LODI CA.THE CAR JUST STARTED MAKING A NOISE AND THEN THE VEHICLE STARTED SWIIRVING LEFT TO RIGHT WITH CONTROL OR RESPONSE FROM THE STEERING WHEELL WE HIT GOING 65MPH.AND WE WERE SMASHED INTO A GUARD RAIL HEAD ON. THEN SPUN OUT ALL OVER THE FREEWAY. CAR IS TOTALED AND NO AIR BAGS DEPLOYED.HAPPENED AT 1435 IN THE AFTERNOON. DRY SUNNY CONDITIONS , AND WE HAD A 11 MONTH OLD IN THE CAR BEHIND ME ON PASSENGER SIDE. AND A 4 YR OLD BEHIND MY WIFE WHOM WAS DRIVING. SCARY , MY GOAL IS TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING TO OTHER FAMILY'S LIKE MINE. MY WIFE AND I WERE LUCKY TO ONLY WALK AWAY INJURED. AND KIDS TRAMITIZED BUT ALIVE.. THANK GOD. BUT ANOTHER FAMILY MIGHT NOT BE SO LUCKY UNLESS THIS IS ADDRESSED.
NHTSA complaint #10883470 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
Lodi, CA2 injured
STEERING
WE WERE DRIVING STRAIGHT ON I 5. IN RED BLUFF CALIFORNIA HEADED TO LODI CA.THE CAR JUST STARTED MAKING A NOISE AND THEN THE VEHICLE STARTED SWIIRVING LEFT TO RIGHT WITH CONTROL OR RESPONSE FROM THE STEERING WHEELL WE HIT GOING 65MPH.AND WE WERE SMASHED INTO A GUARD RAIL HEAD ON. THEN SPUN OUT ALL OVER THE FREEWAY. CAR IS TOTALED AND NO AIR BAGS DEPLOYED.HAPPENED AT 1435 IN THE AFTERNOON. DRY SUNNY CONDITIONS , AND WE HAD A 11 MONTH OLD IN THE CAR BEHIND ME ON PASSENGER SIDE. AND A 4 YR OLD BEHIND MY WIFE WHOM WAS DRIVING. SCARY , MY GOAL IS TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING TO OTHER FAMILY'S LIKE MINE. MY WIFE AND I WERE LUCKY TO ONLY WALK AWAY INJURED. AND KIDS TRAMITIZED BUT ALIVE.. THANK GOD. BUT ANOTHER FAMILY MIGHT NOT BE SO LUCKY UNLESS THIS IS ADDRESSED.
NHTSA complaint #10883470 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
Lodi, CA2 injured
UNKNOWN OR OTHER
WE WERE DRIVING STRAIGHT ON I 5. IN RED BLUFF CALIFORNIA HEADED TO LODI CA.THE CAR JUST STARTED MAKING A NOISE AND THEN THE VEHICLE STARTED SWIIRVING LEFT TO RIGHT WITH CONTROL OR RESPONSE FROM THE STEERING WHEELL WE HIT GOING 65MPH.AND WE WERE SMASHED INTO A GUARD RAIL HEAD ON. THEN SPUN OUT ALL OVER THE FREEWAY. CAR IS TOTALED AND NO AIR BAGS DEPLOYED.HAPPENED AT 1435 IN THE AFTERNOON. DRY SUNNY CONDITIONS , AND WE HAD A 11 MONTH OLD IN THE CAR BEHIND ME ON PASSENGER SIDE. AND A 4 YR OLD BEHIND MY WIFE WHOM WAS DRIVING. SCARY , MY GOAL IS TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING TO OTHER FAMILY'S LIKE MINE. MY WIFE AND I WERE LUCKY TO ONLY WALK AWAY INJURED. AND KIDS TRAMITIZED BUT ALIVE.. THANK GOD. BUT ANOTHER FAMILY MIGHT NOT BE SO LUCKY UNLESS THIS IS ADDRESSED.
NHTSA complaint #10883470 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 62,000 milesNorth Little Rock, ARCrash
SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:ANTILOCK/TRACTION CONTROL/ELECTRONIC LIMITED SLIP
1. APPLIED THE BRAKES. 2. EVERY TIME I APPLY BRAKES AFTER VEHICLE HAS BEEN STARTED 3. DEALER CLAIMS THERE IS NOTHING WHICH CAN BE DONE... APPARENTLY ALL SUCH MODELS HAVE THIS ISSUE, WHICH GENERATES THE QUESTION AS TO WHY LAND ROVER HAS NOT BEEN MADE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, MUCH LIKE WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE HAD SUCH AN ISSUE BEEN INCURRED WITH A CHEVROLET, FORD OR TOYOTA? THIS ISSUE HAS ALREADY BEEN RECORDED AS SERVICE BULLETIN NHTSA ITEM NO. 10016118? THIS DEMONSTRATES THERE ARE RECOGNIZED PROBLEMS WITH THE ABS MODULATOR AND SYSTEM, RESULTING IN THE ABS/ EMERGENCY BRAKE / HILL DESCENT AND TRACTION CONTROL LAMPS ILLUMINATING ON THE DASH, WHICH MAY CAUSE THE ABS SYSTEM TO INCUR FAILURE WHEN NEEDED? THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE OWNERS INCURRING THIS PROBLEM INDICATES THERE IS A SERIOUS INHERENT DEFECT WITHIN THIS VEHICLE, WHICH I AND MANY OTHERS CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY SUCH HAVE NOT BEEN RECALLED... THERE HAS APPARENTLY BEEN ANOTHER RECALL FOR AN ABS COMPONENT IN THIS VEHICLE (NHTSA RECALL CAMPAIGN ID NO. 04V005000) AND THIS PRELIMINARY RECALL SHOULD ALSO BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THIS ISSUE WITH THE ABS SYSTEM? THIS ISSUE IS WELL DOCUMENTED AND WIDESPREAD AMONG THIS PARTICULAR MODEL AND THE NHTSA SHOULD FINALLY REQUIRE LAND ROVER TO CORRECT SUCH.
NHTSA complaint #10361405 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 62,000 milesNorth Little Rock, ARCrash
TRACTION CONTROL SYSTEM
1. APPLIED THE BRAKES. 2. EVERY TIME I APPLY BRAKES AFTER VEHICLE HAS BEEN STARTED 3. DEALER CLAIMS THERE IS NOTHING WHICH CAN BE DONE... APPARENTLY ALL SUCH MODELS HAVE THIS ISSUE, WHICH GENERATES THE QUESTION AS TO WHY LAND ROVER HAS NOT BEEN MADE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, MUCH LIKE WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE HAD SUCH AN ISSUE BEEN INCURRED WITH A CHEVROLET, FORD OR TOYOTA? THIS ISSUE HAS ALREADY BEEN RECORDED AS SERVICE BULLETIN NHTSA ITEM NO. 10016118? THIS DEMONSTRATES THERE ARE RECOGNIZED PROBLEMS WITH THE ABS MODULATOR AND SYSTEM, RESULTING IN THE ABS/ EMERGENCY BRAKE / HILL DESCENT AND TRACTION CONTROL LAMPS ILLUMINATING ON THE DASH, WHICH MAY CAUSE THE ABS SYSTEM TO INCUR FAILURE WHEN NEEDED? THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE OWNERS INCURRING THIS PROBLEM INDICATES THERE IS A SERIOUS INHERENT DEFECT WITHIN THIS VEHICLE, WHICH I AND MANY OTHERS CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY SUCH HAVE NOT BEEN RECALLED... THERE HAS APPARENTLY BEEN ANOTHER RECALL FOR AN ABS COMPONENT IN THIS VEHICLE (NHTSA RECALL CAMPAIGN ID NO. 04V005000) AND THIS PRELIMINARY RECALL SHOULD ALSO BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THIS ISSUE WITH THE ABS SYSTEM? THIS ISSUE IS WELL DOCUMENTED AND WIDESPREAD AMONG THIS PARTICULAR MODEL AND THE NHTSA SHOULD FINALLY REQUIRE LAND ROVER TO CORRECT SUCH.
NHTSA complaint #10361405 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 53,000 milesGainesville, FLCrashFire3 injured
AIR BAGS:FRONTAL
ON MARCH 25, 2006 MY FAMILY WAS ON I-75 IN OUR 2003 DISCOVERY SE. WE WERE IN A CONSTRUCTION ZONE AND A PERSON SEVERAL CARS AHEAD MADE A SUDDEN LANE CHANGE CUTTING OFF A DRIVER AHEAD OF IN OUR LANE. HE BRAKES SUDDENLY. THE TRUCK FOLLOWING STRUCK HIM. I WAS ALREADY SLOWING DOWN DUE TO THE HEAVY TRAFFIC. HOWEVER, I STRUCK THE TRUCK. IT WAS NOT A HEAVY COLLISION AND THE AIR BAGS DID NOT DEPLOY. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, I WAS STRUCK FROM BEHIND BY AN 18 WHEELER. UPON IMPACT, MY DISCOVERY BURST INTO FLAMES IN THE BACK. THE IMPACT AGAIN DROVE MY VEHICLE IN TO THE TRUCK AHEAD. THIS TIME IT WAS A VERY HEAVY IMPACT (THE HOOD CRUMPLED AND THE WINDSHIELD SHATTERED) BUT THE AIRBAGS DID NOT DEPLOY. WE JUST BARELY GOT OUT (I HAD 2ND DEGREE BURNS TO SIDE OF FACE AND HAND) I AM CONCERNED THAT 1.) THE AIR BAGS DID NOT DEPLOY AT LEAST THE SECOND TIME AND 2.) THE VEHICLE BURST INTO FLAMES ON IMPACT.
NHTSA complaint #10154212 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
The most recent complaints
In the owners' own words, exactly as filed with NHTSA.
at 158,510 milesTucson, AZ
POWER TRAIN
ENGINE STARTED KNOCKING AFTER I PURCHASED IT AND I HAD JUST GOT THE BEST RECOMMENDED OIL AN SPARK PLUGS / WIRES NO MONEY TO REPAIR
NHTSA complaint #10934497 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 158,510 milesTucson, AZ
ENGINE
ENGINE STARTED KNOCKING AFTER I PURCHASED IT AND I HAD JUST GOT THE BEST RECOMMENDED OIL AN SPARK PLUGS / WIRES NO MONEY TO REPAIR
NHTSA complaint #10934497 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
Lodi, CA2 injured
AIR BAGS
WE WERE DRIVING STRAIGHT ON I 5. IN RED BLUFF CALIFORNIA HEADED TO LODI CA.THE CAR JUST STARTED MAKING A NOISE AND THEN THE VEHICLE STARTED SWIIRVING LEFT TO RIGHT WITH CONTROL OR RESPONSE FROM THE STEERING WHEELL WE HIT GOING 65MPH.AND WE WERE SMASHED INTO A GUARD RAIL HEAD ON. THEN SPUN OUT ALL OVER THE FREEWAY. CAR IS TOTALED AND NO AIR BAGS DEPLOYED.HAPPENED AT 1435 IN THE AFTERNOON. DRY SUNNY CONDITIONS , AND WE HAD A 11 MONTH OLD IN THE CAR BEHIND ME ON PASSENGER SIDE. AND A 4 YR OLD BEHIND MY WIFE WHOM WAS DRIVING. SCARY , MY GOAL IS TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING TO OTHER FAMILY'S LIKE MINE. MY WIFE AND I WERE LUCKY TO ONLY WALK AWAY INJURED. AND KIDS TRAMITIZED BUT ALIVE.. THANK GOD. BUT ANOTHER FAMILY MIGHT NOT BE SO LUCKY UNLESS THIS IS ADDRESSED.
NHTSA complaint #10883470 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
Lodi, CA2 injured
STEERING
WE WERE DRIVING STRAIGHT ON I 5. IN RED BLUFF CALIFORNIA HEADED TO LODI CA.THE CAR JUST STARTED MAKING A NOISE AND THEN THE VEHICLE STARTED SWIIRVING LEFT TO RIGHT WITH CONTROL OR RESPONSE FROM THE STEERING WHEELL WE HIT GOING 65MPH.AND WE WERE SMASHED INTO A GUARD RAIL HEAD ON. THEN SPUN OUT ALL OVER THE FREEWAY. CAR IS TOTALED AND NO AIR BAGS DEPLOYED.HAPPENED AT 1435 IN THE AFTERNOON. DRY SUNNY CONDITIONS , AND WE HAD A 11 MONTH OLD IN THE CAR BEHIND ME ON PASSENGER SIDE. AND A 4 YR OLD BEHIND MY WIFE WHOM WAS DRIVING. SCARY , MY GOAL IS TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING TO OTHER FAMILY'S LIKE MINE. MY WIFE AND I WERE LUCKY TO ONLY WALK AWAY INJURED. AND KIDS TRAMITIZED BUT ALIVE.. THANK GOD. BUT ANOTHER FAMILY MIGHT NOT BE SO LUCKY UNLESS THIS IS ADDRESSED.
NHTSA complaint #10883470 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
Lodi, CA2 injured
UNKNOWN OR OTHER
WE WERE DRIVING STRAIGHT ON I 5. IN RED BLUFF CALIFORNIA HEADED TO LODI CA.THE CAR JUST STARTED MAKING A NOISE AND THEN THE VEHICLE STARTED SWIIRVING LEFT TO RIGHT WITH CONTROL OR RESPONSE FROM THE STEERING WHEELL WE HIT GOING 65MPH.AND WE WERE SMASHED INTO A GUARD RAIL HEAD ON. THEN SPUN OUT ALL OVER THE FREEWAY. CAR IS TOTALED AND NO AIR BAGS DEPLOYED.HAPPENED AT 1435 IN THE AFTERNOON. DRY SUNNY CONDITIONS , AND WE HAD A 11 MONTH OLD IN THE CAR BEHIND ME ON PASSENGER SIDE. AND A 4 YR OLD BEHIND MY WIFE WHOM WAS DRIVING. SCARY , MY GOAL IS TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING TO OTHER FAMILY'S LIKE MINE. MY WIFE AND I WERE LUCKY TO ONLY WALK AWAY INJURED. AND KIDS TRAMITIZED BUT ALIVE.. THANK GOD. BUT ANOTHER FAMILY MIGHT NOT BE SO LUCKY UNLESS THIS IS ADDRESSED.
NHTSA complaint #10883470 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
Hampton Bays, NY
AIR BAGS
THE STEERING AIR BAG BLOWOUT FOR NOTHING, THE VEHICLE WAS STATIONARY THE MOTOR WAS WORKING I'M WHASING THE LAND ROVER AND THAT HAPPENED, I'M CONFUSE.
NHTSA complaint #10816218 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 85,000 milesSherman, TX
ENGINE
MY ENGINE STARTED MAKING A KNOCKING SOUND AND THEN A SOUND SIMILAR TO METAL SCRATCHING METAL. I HAD A MASTER MECHANIC LOOK AT THE ENGINE AND HAD SEVERAL PART REPLACED 1500.00 WORTH TO BE EXACT AND STILL THE SOUND OCCURS. I CONTACTED LAND ROVER AND BECAUSE MY VEHICLE IS USED AND OVER THE WARRANTY THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO BUT SUGGEST A NEW ENGINE. I HAVE RESEARCHED AND IT APPEARS THIS IS A KNOWN ISSUE AND HAS BEEN ACKNOWLEDGE BY LAND ROVER THAT THE LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 2003 THE OIL PUMP WAS FAULTY, HOWEVER HAVE DENIED ANY KIND OF SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM TO MULTIPLE CUSTOMERS OTHER THAN SUGGESTING A NEW ENGINE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND AS A CONSUMER WE CAN BE EXPECTED TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRS ON A VEHICLE WHICH THE MANUFACTURE KNOWING AND WILLINGLY MANUFACTURE THE A VEHICLE WITH FAULTY EQUIPMENT. ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND THERE IS NO SAFETY RISK TO THIS FAULTY EQUIPMENT ITS STILL WRONG TO PRODUCE A TECHNICAL WITH FAULTY EQUIPMENT. I AM OTHER CUSTOMERS ARE HOPING BY CONTACTING THE NHTSA SOMETHING WILL BE DONE.
NHTSA complaint #10577206 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 55,000 milesCornelius, NC
ENGINE
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY. THE CONTACT STATED WHILE DRIVING THE VEHICLE WOULD SUDDENLY STALL. THE FAILURE WAS DIAGNOSED BY THE DEALER WHO CONFIRMED THAT THE ENGINE OIL PUMP WAS FAULTY AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 55,000.
NHTSA complaint #10562849 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 150,000 milesWest Palm Beach, FL
ENGINE
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE OIL PUMP FAILED, CAUSING THE ENGINE TO SEIZE AND FAIL. THE CONTACT TOOK THE VEHICLE TO A MECHANIC AND WAS TOLD THAT BECAUSE THE OIL PUMP FAILED, THE ENGINE WOULD NEED REPLACING. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE VIN WAS NOT AVAILABLE. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 150,000.
NHTSA complaint #10491691 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 75,000 milesFort Worth, TX
ENGINE
I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE SAME ONLINE ISSUE WITH MY LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II, MY VIN IS NOT THE SAME HOWEVER THE SAME EXACT ISSUES. "2003 DISCOVERY SERIES II OIL PUMP FAILURE" I HAVE A LOAD KNOCKING NOISE COMING FROM MY ENGINE, THE VEHICLE IS STILL RUNNING, AND OIL CHANGES, TREATMENTS ETC CANNOT STOP THE KNOCK. NOT GETTING ANY WARNING LIGHTS OF LOW PRESSURE HOWEVER IT IS AT THE LAND ROVER DEALERSHIP OF FORT WORTH NOW AND THEY CONFIRMED THE SAME. THIS A $12,000 FIX FOR AN ISSUE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A RECALL OR NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC. I HAVE OVER 300 POSTINGS ON LINE ABOUT THE SAME ISSUES BUT ALL IN 60 MINS OF LOOKING AND SURE THERE ARE THOUSANDS MORE. I'M NOT SURE HOW TO SEARCH FOR RECALLS OVER IN GREAT BRITAIN BEING THAT SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT?S WHERE MY VEHICLE WAS IMPORTED FROM WITH THE SALTY VIN NUMBER BUT ANY DIRECTION WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
NHTSA complaint #10489148 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 89,000 milesHouston, TX
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
WHILE DRIVING LOW MILEAGE 2003 DISCOVERY II SE7, ENGINE BEGAN TO KNOCK IN UPPER ENGINE AREA ON DRIVER SIDE. PULLED INTO LOCAL REPAIR SHOP IMMEDIATELY AND WAS TOLD IT WAS NOT A ROD AS THE NOISE DISSIPATES WHEN IDLED ABOVE 1000 RPM. TOOK IT TO A LOCAL LAND ROVER SHOP AND WAS TOLD IT WAS EITHER A BAD OIL PUMP OR THE SLEEVE IN THE CYLINDER AT THE BACK OF THE ENGINE HAS COME LOOSE AND IS KNOCKING UP AGAINST THE HEAD GASKET. TECHNICIAN PRIVATELY INDICATED BOTH ARE KNOWN ISSUES AND THAT A NEW ENGINE IS REQUIRED IN EITHER CASE AND THAT LR NORTH AMERICA KNOWS OF THE ISSUES AND HAS REFUSED TO ASSIST OWNERS OR ISSUE A RECALL. COST OF NEW ENGINE IS BETWEEN $8,000 AND 12,000 DEPENDING ON WHO YOU TALK WITH. SINCE THE ONLY REAL ISSUE SO FAR IS THE NOISE FACTOR (SOUNDS LIKE A DIESEL WHILE IDLING), TECHNICIAN FURTHER ADVISED IT WOULD BE BEST TO KEEP DRIVING THE LR UNTIL IT COMPLETELY FAILED AS THE PRICE OF NEW ENGINE WOULD NOT BE MORE AND I SHOULD GET AS MUCH FROM THE ORIGINAL AS POSSIBLE. REQUEST NHTSA LOBBY ON BEHALF OF OWNERS TO GET THIS ISSUE RESOLVED BETWEEN OWNERS AND LRNA. ISSUES ARE OBVIOUS MANUFACTURING DEFECTS AND LR SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE PROBLEM AND OFFER SOME TYPE SOLUTION TO THE CONSUMER. THE NHTSA SHOULD ISSUE SOME SORT OF FINE IF POSSIBLE TO FORCE LR TO MAKE GOOD ON THEIR PRODUCT.
NHTSA complaint #10448491 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 57,000 milesBrick, NJ
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE
I OWN A 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY SE. THIS VEHICLE ONLY HAS 57,000 MILES AND HAS BEEN VERY WELL MAINTAINED. RECENTLY I NOTICED A TAP COMING FROM THE ENGINE. I IMMEDIATELY TOOK IT OVER TO THE LOCAL LAND ROVER DEALER. AFTER A COUPLE OF DAYS, I WAS INFORMED THAT IT NEEDED A NEW ENGINE IN ORDER TO FIX THIS PROBLEM, AT A COST OF $14,000. WHAT A JOKE! THERE IS A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM WITH THESE TRUCKS MAINTAINING ADEQUATE OIL PRESSURE IN ORDER TO KEEP THEM RUNNING PROPERLY. ONCE AGAIN THE CONSUMER GETS THE SHAFT. I AM NOW STUCK, ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHER LR OWNERS, FACED WITH A HUGE REPAIR BILL. THIS MATTER SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKED INTO AS A POSSIBLE RECALL.
NHTSA complaint #10410418 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 93,235 milesCentennial, CO
VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
WHILE DRIVING OUR 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II HSE TODAY, THE THROTTLE SUDDENLY AND UNEXPECTEDLY STUCK IN THE FULL POSITION. MY WIFE WAS ABLE TO AVOID TRAFFIC, CONTROL THE VEHICLE AND GET THE TRANSMISSION IN NEUTRAL. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO A LAND ROVER DEALER, AND THEY DETERMINED THAT THE THROTTLE BUTTERFLY VALVE HAD STUCK. I RESEARCHED THIS AND CAME UP WITH NHTSA CASE NUMBER 03V133000 WHICH DEAL WITH THIS EXACT ISSUE FOR THIS MODEL YEAR VEHICLE. THE DEALER CLAIMS THERE ARE NO OUTSTANDING RECALLS FOR MY VEHICLE AND REFUSED TO REPLACE THE PART UNDER THIS ISSUE. I FIND IT HIGHLY COINCIDENTAL THAT I AM EXPERIENCING THE EXACT ISSUE DESCRIBED IN THE NHTSA CASE. IN REVIEWING THE CASE INFORMATION THERE WERE OTHER REPORTS OUTSIDE OF THE DATE RANGE THAT LAND ROVER CLAIMS APPLY TO THIS DEFECT. I CONTACTED THE LAND ROVER CORPORATE OFFICE AND THEY SAID THEY WERE REVIEWING THE CASE, BUT THAT THE RECALL DID NOT APPLY TO MY VEHICLE SINCE THE RECALLS ARE VIN SPECIFIC. THE SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE DID ADMIT THAT THIS PROBLEM DOES OCCUR ON OTHER VEHICLES OF THIS TYPE. THERE WAS NO WARNING OF THIS FAILURE AND IT COULD HAVE RESULTED IN A SERIOUS ACCIDENT.
NHTSA complaint #10367319 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 93,235 milesCentennial, CO
VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL:CABLES
WHILE DRIVING OUR 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II HSE TODAY, THE THROTTLE SUDDENLY AND UNEXPECTEDLY STUCK IN THE FULL POSITION. MY WIFE WAS ABLE TO AVOID TRAFFIC, CONTROL THE VEHICLE AND GET THE TRANSMISSION IN NEUTRAL. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO A LAND ROVER DEALER, AND THEY DETERMINED THAT THE THROTTLE BUTTERFLY VALVE HAD STUCK. I RESEARCHED THIS AND CAME UP WITH NHTSA CASE NUMBER 03V133000 WHICH DEAL WITH THIS EXACT ISSUE FOR THIS MODEL YEAR VEHICLE. THE DEALER CLAIMS THERE ARE NO OUTSTANDING RECALLS FOR MY VEHICLE AND REFUSED TO REPLACE THE PART UNDER THIS ISSUE. I FIND IT HIGHLY COINCIDENTAL THAT I AM EXPERIENCING THE EXACT ISSUE DESCRIBED IN THE NHTSA CASE. IN REVIEWING THE CASE INFORMATION THERE WERE OTHER REPORTS OUTSIDE OF THE DATE RANGE THAT LAND ROVER CLAIMS APPLY TO THIS DEFECT. I CONTACTED THE LAND ROVER CORPORATE OFFICE AND THEY SAID THEY WERE REVIEWING THE CASE, BUT THAT THE RECALL DID NOT APPLY TO MY VEHICLE SINCE THE RECALLS ARE VIN SPECIFIC. THE SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE DID ADMIT THAT THIS PROBLEM DOES OCCUR ON OTHER VEHICLES OF THIS TYPE. THERE WAS NO WARNING OF THIS FAILURE AND IT COULD HAVE RESULTED IN A SERIOUS ACCIDENT.
NHTSA complaint #10367319 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 90,000 milesEast Aurora, NY
ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC)
2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II "SLABS CONTROL UNIT" OTHERWISE KNOWN BY THE OWNER & MECHANICS AS THE "3 AMIGOS (ABS,HDC,TC)...... I AM SURE YOU HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE PROBLEM BECAUSE THE INTERNET HAS SEVERAL UNHAPPY OWNERS COMPLAINING. THIS UNIT CONTROLSTHE 4-WHEEL ANTI-LOCK BRAKING, HILL DESCENT AND 4 WHEEL TRACTION CONTROL ALONG WITH SELF LEVELING SUSPENSION. TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM THE DEALER WANTS TO INSTALL A NEW UNIT AT A COST OF OVER $1500 TO 2500 DEPENDING ON LABOR COST. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE ALREADY CONDUCTING AN INVESTIGATION IN THE ABOVE, ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED..
NHTSA complaint #10361698 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 62,000 milesNorth Little Rock, ARCrash
SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:ANTILOCK/TRACTION CONTROL/ELECTRONIC LIMITED SLIP
1. APPLIED THE BRAKES. 2. EVERY TIME I APPLY BRAKES AFTER VEHICLE HAS BEEN STARTED 3. DEALER CLAIMS THERE IS NOTHING WHICH CAN BE DONE... APPARENTLY ALL SUCH MODELS HAVE THIS ISSUE, WHICH GENERATES THE QUESTION AS TO WHY LAND ROVER HAS NOT BEEN MADE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, MUCH LIKE WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE HAD SUCH AN ISSUE BEEN INCURRED WITH A CHEVROLET, FORD OR TOYOTA? THIS ISSUE HAS ALREADY BEEN RECORDED AS SERVICE BULLETIN NHTSA ITEM NO. 10016118? THIS DEMONSTRATES THERE ARE RECOGNIZED PROBLEMS WITH THE ABS MODULATOR AND SYSTEM, RESULTING IN THE ABS/ EMERGENCY BRAKE / HILL DESCENT AND TRACTION CONTROL LAMPS ILLUMINATING ON THE DASH, WHICH MAY CAUSE THE ABS SYSTEM TO INCUR FAILURE WHEN NEEDED? THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE OWNERS INCURRING THIS PROBLEM INDICATES THERE IS A SERIOUS INHERENT DEFECT WITHIN THIS VEHICLE, WHICH I AND MANY OTHERS CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY SUCH HAVE NOT BEEN RECALLED... THERE HAS APPARENTLY BEEN ANOTHER RECALL FOR AN ABS COMPONENT IN THIS VEHICLE (NHTSA RECALL CAMPAIGN ID NO. 04V005000) AND THIS PRELIMINARY RECALL SHOULD ALSO BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THIS ISSUE WITH THE ABS SYSTEM? THIS ISSUE IS WELL DOCUMENTED AND WIDESPREAD AMONG THIS PARTICULAR MODEL AND THE NHTSA SHOULD FINALLY REQUIRE LAND ROVER TO CORRECT SUCH.
NHTSA complaint #10361405 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 62,000 milesNorth Little Rock, ARCrash
TRACTION CONTROL SYSTEM
1. APPLIED THE BRAKES. 2. EVERY TIME I APPLY BRAKES AFTER VEHICLE HAS BEEN STARTED 3. DEALER CLAIMS THERE IS NOTHING WHICH CAN BE DONE... APPARENTLY ALL SUCH MODELS HAVE THIS ISSUE, WHICH GENERATES THE QUESTION AS TO WHY LAND ROVER HAS NOT BEEN MADE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, MUCH LIKE WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE HAD SUCH AN ISSUE BEEN INCURRED WITH A CHEVROLET, FORD OR TOYOTA? THIS ISSUE HAS ALREADY BEEN RECORDED AS SERVICE BULLETIN NHTSA ITEM NO. 10016118? THIS DEMONSTRATES THERE ARE RECOGNIZED PROBLEMS WITH THE ABS MODULATOR AND SYSTEM, RESULTING IN THE ABS/ EMERGENCY BRAKE / HILL DESCENT AND TRACTION CONTROL LAMPS ILLUMINATING ON THE DASH, WHICH MAY CAUSE THE ABS SYSTEM TO INCUR FAILURE WHEN NEEDED? THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE OWNERS INCURRING THIS PROBLEM INDICATES THERE IS A SERIOUS INHERENT DEFECT WITHIN THIS VEHICLE, WHICH I AND MANY OTHERS CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY SUCH HAVE NOT BEEN RECALLED... THERE HAS APPARENTLY BEEN ANOTHER RECALL FOR AN ABS COMPONENT IN THIS VEHICLE (NHTSA RECALL CAMPAIGN ID NO. 04V005000) AND THIS PRELIMINARY RECALL SHOULD ALSO BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THIS ISSUE WITH THE ABS SYSTEM? THIS ISSUE IS WELL DOCUMENTED AND WIDESPREAD AMONG THIS PARTICULAR MODEL AND THE NHTSA SHOULD FINALLY REQUIRE LAND ROVER TO CORRECT SUCH.
NHTSA complaint #10361405 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 86,000 milesDesoto, TX
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
I HAVE EXPERIENCED WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE SAME OIL PUMP SYMPTOMS OTHERS HAVE COMPLAINED OF. DESPITE READING "FULL", MY TRUCK SEEMS TO HAVE DIFFICULTY ADEQUATELY LUBRICATING. SO, SOME DAYS IT'S SOUNDED LIKE A TANK!!
NHTSA complaint #10350872 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 86,000 milesDesoto, TX
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
I HAVE EXPERIENCED WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE SAME OIL PUMP SYMPTOMS OTHERS HAVE COMPLAINED OF. DESPITE READING "FULL", MY TRUCK SEEMS TO HAVE DIFFICULTY ADEQUATELY LUBRICATING. SO, SOME DAYS IT'S SOUNDED LIKE A TANK!!
NHTSA complaint #10350872 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 86,000 milesDesoto, TX
LATCHES/LOCKS/LINKAGES
I HAVE EXPERIENCED WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE SAME OIL PUMP SYMPTOMS OTHERS HAVE COMPLAINED OF. DESPITE READING "FULL", MY TRUCK SEEMS TO HAVE DIFFICULTY ADEQUATELY LUBRICATING. SO, SOME DAYS IT'S SOUNDED LIKE A TANK!!
NHTSA complaint #10350872 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 51,100 milesPonce, PR
CHILD SEAT
I JUST BOUGHT A LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 2 SERIES HSE WITH 50,000 PLUS MILES 2 WEEKS AGO AND JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THE OIL PUMP PROBLEM. MY DISCOVERY IS WITHIN THE AFFECTED VIN# AND ALREADY HAS THE OIL LIGHT ON. SO WHAT'S THE UPDATE ON THIS MATTER?? ANY RECALL FROM LAND ROVER????
NHTSA complaint #10345619 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 60,000 milesCalais, ME
SERVICE BRAKES, ELECTRIC
2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II -ABS STOPS WORKING, IMPAIRED BRAKING, TRACTION CONTROL STOPS WORKING, BAD ABS MODULATOR CONNECTION. HAPPENS SPONTANEOUSLY. REPLACED ABS MODULATOR.
NHTSA complaint #10342877 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 60,000 milesCalais, ME
TRACTION CONTROL SYSTEM
2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II -ABS STOPS WORKING, IMPAIRED BRAKING, TRACTION CONTROL STOPS WORKING, BAD ABS MODULATOR CONNECTION. HAPPENS SPONTANEOUSLY. REPLACED ABS MODULATOR.
NHTSA complaint #10342877 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 61,000 milesSeattle, WA
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
I PURCHASED A 2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY SERIES II HSE WITH 44K MILES. IN FEBRUARY 2008, I BROUGHT THE VEHICLE TO LAND ROVER DEALER TO HAVE A FULL INSPECTION OF THE VEHICLE. THE INSPECTION REPORT NOTED THAT VEHICLE WAS IN GREAT CONDITION WITH NO ISSUES NEEDING TO BE ADDRESSED. BUT ALONG WITH THE EVALUATION PAPER WORK PROVIDED BY THE LAND ROVER DEALER WAS A LAND ROVER TECHNICAL ALERT. THE TECHNICAL ALERT STATED THE FOLLOWING;' DISCOVERY SERIES II (LT) 3A771801 ' 3A808362 SITUATION OIL PUMP FAILURES ON 2003 DISCOVERY SERIES II VEHICLES MAY BE THE RESULT OF A MANUFACTURING ERROR. LOCATING DOWEL PINS MAY BE SLIGHTLY MISALIGNED PERMITTING ASSEMBLY OF THE OIL PUMP TO THE ENGINE BLOCK, BUT PLACING STRESS ON THE PUMP HOUSING WHICH CAN ULTIMATELY LEAD TO LEAKAGE OR FAILURE. RESOLUTION WHENEVER AN OIL PUMP FAILURE IS ENCOUNTERED ON VEHICLES WITHIN THE ABOVE VIN RANGE THE ONLY EFFECTIVE REPAIR CURRENTLY AVAILABLE IS REPLACEMENT OF THE COMPLETE ENGINE ASSEMBLY INCLUDING THE FRONT COVER/OIL PUMP MANUFACTURED TO THE LATEST TOLERANCES. MY LAND ROVER VIN NUMBER FALLS WITHIN THE IDENTIFIED VIN NUMBER RANGE OF AFFECTED VEHICLES. JUMP AHEAD TO 2010. WHILE DRIVING THE VEHICLE ON 26 MARCH 2010, THE OIL LIGHT CAME AND THE ENGINE BEGAN TO MAKE RUMBLING SOUNDS. I TURNED OFF THE VEHICLE. FEARING THE WORST, I HAD THE VEHICLE TOWED AT A COST OF $545 TO MY MECHANIC. MY MECHANIC CONFIRMED THAT THE OIL PUMP HAD FAILED. I SPOKE TO THE LAND ROVER DEALER AND TO LAND ROVER OF NORTH AMERICA. NEITHER WOULD COVER THE REPAIR IN SPITE OF THE TECHNICAL ALERT PUBLISHED AND PROVIDED BY THEM ON THIS CONDITION. THE ESTIMATED COST TO REPAIR THE VEHICLE IS $10,000. I BELIEVE THAT I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OWNERSHIP AND REASONABLE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH A USED VEHICLE. BUT, THE ISSUE WITH MY VEHICLE IS NOT REASONABLE. LAND ROVER MADE A MANUFACTURING 'ERROR', PUBLISHED IT AND THEN LEFT THE 'ERROR' TO THE CONSEQUENCE AND EXPENSE OF MYSELF.
NHTSA complaint #10323539 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.
at 99,000 milesClearwater, FL
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
2003 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY OIL PUMP FAILURE. LAND ROVER IS AWARE OF THIS PROBLEM AND DOES NOT WANT TO DO A RECALL.
NHTSA complaint #10295488 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.