1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager electrical problems

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

TAKATA RECALL,SERPENTINE BELT HAS SHREDDED AT LEAST SIX TIMES AND JUST CAME OFF THREE TIMES ,TENSIONER REPLACED THREE TIMES,IDLER PULLEY TWICE,WHEN BELT SHREDS WIRES SEVER AND VAN STOPS ABRUPTLY,WINDSHIELD WIPERS STOP ABRUPTLY HESITATING BEFORE RESUMING,SWAY BAR LINKS NEED REPLACED,O2SENSORS CHECK ENGINE LIGHT TO COME ON,CV AXLES FAILING REPLACED RIGHT TWICE,HUB ASSEMBLY AND BRAKE CALIPERS MISS ALIGNED,ENGINE MOUNTS FAILED AND NEEDED,REPLACED,AIRBAG AND ABS LIGHTS ON DASHBOARD PANEL FUSE BLOWING,TAILLIGHTS POSSIBLE SHORT CAUSING BRAKE LIGHT TO FAIL,BATTERY NEEDING TO BE DISCONNECTED. TO SAVE BATTERY FROM DYEING DUE TO BRAKE LIGHTS STAYING ON CONSTANTLY, TRANSMISSION JERKING AND HESITATING IN REVERSE AND FIRST GEAR,PASSENGER SIDE WINDOW NOT OPERATING POSSIBLE PROBLEM,BACK WINDOWS OPEN BUT WILL NOT ALWAYS SHUT,HORN NOT WORKING,REPLACED FUEL PUMP DUE TO GAS LEAK,WHEN BRAKING VAN LURCHES FORWARD,FRONT END SHAKES, TIE BAR ENDS REPLACED,HEATER BLOWS COLD ON PASSENGER SIDE AND NOT COOLING,MOST PROBLEMS OCCURRED WHILE DRIVING,REPLACED STOP BRAKE SWITCH, BRAKE LIGHT DRIVERS SIDE ILLUMINATED, BUT NOT WHEN BRAKE PETAL PUSHED,TRANSMISSION LEAKING BY CV AXEL,TURN SIGNALS AND PANELS INSIDE BY DASH NOT ALWAYS OPERATING,ONLY WHEN NEGATIVE TERMINAL IS READJUSTMENT,LIGHTS FLASHING AS IF PANIC MODE WAS ACTIVATED WHEN CAR IS NOT ON,RATTLING. SOUND FROM FRONT OF VAN POSSIBLE CV AXEL OR SUSPENSION.

NHTSA complaint #10816372 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

WHEN I TURN ON MY CAR AFTER 3 TO 5 SECOND IT WOULD TURN OFF AND WHEN I AM DRIVING WHEN IT REACHES ABOUT 15 TO 25 THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT WILL TURN ON AND CAR TURNS OFF AND STEERING WHEEL DOS NOT WORK AND THE BRAKES DOS NOT WORK, BUT THE ELECTRICITY IS STILL WORKS , THE STEREO WOULD STILL BE ON.

NHTSA complaint #10525858 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

SO FAR THIS VEHICLE HAS BEEN A LEMON. I HAVE REPLACED EVERYTHING ON IT, FROM FUEL PUMP, SENSORS, STEERING COLUMN, BELT TENSIONER AND PULLEY, ALTERNATOR, WIPER SWITCH THAT SEEMS TO HAVE A MIND OF ITS OWN EVEN THO I REPLACED A NEW SWITCH. NOW MORE ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS. THE INSTRUMENT CLUSTER IS NOW MESSED UP. ABS LIGHT AND CHECK ENGINE LIGHT KEEP COMING ON ALL MY GAUGES GO FLAT. LIGHTS GO DIM. THEN SUDDENLY LIGHTS WILL FLASH AND THEY WILL ALL COME BACK ON. THEN GO OFF AGAIN. NOW, NOT ONLY DO THEY GO FLAT BUT NOW I HAVE A SHIFTING PROBLEM. THE VEHICLE WILL NOT SHIFT. IT SEEMS TO BE STUCK IN 2ND GEAR. I REPLACED THE WHOLE BRAKING SYSTEM. EGR VALVE, CAM SENSOR, CRUISE CONTROL, THE BODY. THE GAS PEDAL USE TO ACCELERATE ON ITS OWN. THAT WAS A LITTLE SCARY GOIN DOWN THE ROAD NOT KNOWING WHEN IT WAS GONNA DO THAT. EVERYONE WHO RIDES WITH ME KEEPS JOKING AS IF THE VEHICLE IS HAUNTED. LIGHTS GO WEAK, I'VE REPLACED ALL THE BULBS CLEANED THE HEADLIGHTS. NOTHING SEEMS TO WORK RIGHT ON THIS VEHICLE. I'VE ALREADY INVESTED THOUSANDS. WAY MORE THEN ITS WORTH. I'VE HAD PROBLEMS WHERE THE VEHICLE JUST REFUSES TO START. SOMETIMES NOT A PROBLEM. THEN USUALLY IN THE COLD IT WONT TURN OVER AT ALL. I HAVE REPLACED THE BATTERY NUMEROUS TIMES CHECKED FOR CODES. AIRBAG LIGHT WOULD COME ON. TRANSMISSION HESITATES. SOMETIMES VEHICLE SHUDDERS ACTS LIKE ITS GONNA QUIT.VEHICLE JUST HAS ON GOING PROBLEMS.

NHTSA complaint #10460401 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1997 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THE ENTIRE INSTRUMENT PANEL INTERMITTENTLY FAILED AND ALL OF THE GAUGES DROPPED TO 0. THE VEHICLE ALSO INTERMITTENTLY STALLED. THE FAILURE OCCURRED WHILE AT A STOP SIGN AND WHILE DRIVING AT VARIOUS SPEEDS. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT REPAIR SHOP WHERE THE CONTACT WAS ADVISED TO REPLACE THE INSTRUMENT CLUSTER. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 162,000 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 164,000.

NHTSA complaint #10399769 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

THE INSTRUMENT PANEL STARTED GOING OFF AND ON. WHEN IT WOULD GO OFF THE ABS LIGHT WOULD COME ON AND THEN THE ENGINE SERVICE LIGHT WOULD COME ON, DURING THIS TIME EVERY THING WENT OUT. THE SPEEDOMETER, ODOMETER, GAS AND TEMPERATURE GAUGES WENT OUT. I WOULD HIT THE DASH AND IT WOULD WORK CORRECTLY. I FINALLY HAD TO REPLACE IT AND THAT ONE LASTED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. SO KNOW I HAVE PUT ANOTHER ONE IN AND AT THIS TIME HAVING PROBLEMS GETTING IT TO FUNCTION. I SEE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ON THE INTERNET, BUT NONE ON NHTSA WEBSITE.

NHTSA complaint #10267188 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM: INSTRUMENT CLUSTER/PANEL

ENTIRE DASH BOARD INSTRUMENT CLUSTER DIES WITHOUT ANY NOTICE, COMES BACK ON ITS OWN AND DIES. SERIOUS SAFETY HAZARD ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT.

NHTSA complaint #10215302 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM: EVAPORATOR WAS REPLACED 3 TIMES SO FAR, FIRST TIME BEING UNDER 3 YEAR WARRANTY. SERVICE ENGINE LIGHT STAYS ON ALL THE TIME NOW, EVEN AFTER BEING DIAGNOSED WITH "NO PROBLEMS" AND BEING RESET. LATELY, THE WINDOWS WON'T GO UP AND DOWN UNTIL THE CAR IS STOPPED AND RESTARTED. SAME THING WITH THE SPEEDOMETER AND THE TACHOMETER. THEY JUST "GO DEAD".

NHTSA complaint #10161735 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

DT*: THE CONTACT STATED SINCE THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED IN 2002 FROM AN INDEPENDENT DEALER, THE VEHICLE HAS BEEN HAVING ON GOING PROBLEMS WITH THE ELECTRICAL WIRING, ALTERNATOR, RADIATOR, THERMOSTAT, COOLING SYSTEM. DIAGNOSTIC TESTING IS NEEDED FOR GROSS POLLUTION. THE VEHICLE HAS FAILED UNDER FAIR WEATHER CONDITIONS THREE TIMES SINCE PURCHASE. EVENTS LEADING UP TO THE FAILURES OF THE FAN, RADIATOR AND TRANSMISSION OCCURRED WHEN VEHICLE STARTED TO RUN HOT, CAUSING TRANSMISSION TO BLOW OUT. SERVICE FOR THESE COMPONENTS WERE PERFORMED AT AN INDEPENDANT AUTO SHOP.

NHTSA complaint #10160769 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING

SEVERE ELECTRICAL PROBLEM. WIPERS COME ON BY THEMSELVES, HEADLIGHTS STAY ON, DASHBOARD LIGHTS GO ON AND OFF WHILE DRIVING. VEHICLE OVERHEATS, A/C STOPS WORKING. THIS HAS BEEN THE ABSOLUTE WORST VEHICLE EVER OWNED. IT COST TOO MUCH TO KEEP REPAIRING, PLEASE ADVISE ON THE ELECTRICAL PROBLEM POSSIBILITIES. THANKS.

NHTSA complaint #10090740 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:12V/24V/48V BATTERY

IF THE VAN GOES THROUGH A PUDDLE IN THE ROAD AIR CONDITIONER COMPRESSOR BELT SLIDES OFF ENGINE. WHEN THIS OCCURS VFEHICLE LOSES POWER STEERING AND STALLS BECAUSE THE BATTERY IS DRAINED.

NHTSA complaint #10067228 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:HORN

AIRBAG LIGHT STAYS ON WHILE DRIVING MOST OF THE TIME. HORN AND CRUISE CONTROL HAS STOPPED WORKING COMPLETELY.

NHTSA complaint #10061913 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:IGNITION:MODULE

FUEL GAUGE INTERMITTENT NON-FUNCTIONAL. INCREASINGLY MORE FREQUENT ENGINE DYING EPISODES, THEN IS ABLE TO RESTART AFTER 5-10 MINUTES REST PERIOD. MIL LAMP CODE READS BATTERY POWER DISCONNECT TO PCM DURING PREVIOUS 40 ENGINE CRANKS. I SUSPECT A FAULTY RELAY( SWITCH) COMPONENT THAT FAILS AT CERTAIN VOLTAGES AND AFTER EQUILIBRATION REST PERIOD ITS VALUE RETURNS TO NORMAL AND RESTARTS (ALLOWS CURRENT TO PASS THROUGH FROM BATTERY. SOURCE TO PCM AND INTO IGNITION CIRCUIT). *NLM

NHTSA complaint #10021057 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING

WHEN CAR IS SLOWING TO MAKE A TURN, THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS COME ON. THE SERVICE ENGINE LIGHT STAYS ON. WHEN A DIAGNOSTIC TEST WAS PERFORMED, THE CODE WHICH CAME UP INDICATED A PROBLEM DID NOT EXIST. IT WAS DETERMINED A SHORT CAUSED THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS AND ENGINE LIGHT TO STAY ON. WHEN THE COMPUTER WAS RESET, THE LIGHT CAME BACK ON IN A MATTER OF MINUTES. I DO NOT THINK THIS PROBLEM IS DUE TO AGE OF THE CAR. MANY OF MY FRIENDS WHO HAVE THESE SAME AUTOS HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM WILL REQUIRE AN EXTENSIVE SEARCH OF THE ELECTRICAL WIRING AND IS PERFORMED ON AN HOURLY RATE. THIS COULD WELL COST HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO TRACK DOWN THE PROBLEM. I AM UNABLE TO SELL MY VEHICLE DUE TO THE PROBLEM WITHOUT SPENDING A LARGE SUM OF MONEY TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM. THIS PROBLEM BEGAN SEVERAL YEARS AGO, BUT WAS ONLY SPORADIC. IT DID NOT OCCUR ENOUGH TO WARRANT A SEARCH. IN THE PAST YEAR IT HAS BECOME ROUTINE. WHAT CAN PLYMOUTH CORPORATION DO TO CORRECT THIS PROBLEM WITHOUT THE EXPENSE BEING THAT OF THE OWNER. THE MECHANIC AT THE SHOP ALSO INDICATED THAT HE WAS COMPLETELY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROBLEM OCCURRING IN MOST VANS OF THIS AGE. PLEASE ADVISE WHAT THE NEXT STEP SHOULD BE.

NHTSA complaint #10010410 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:HORN

AIRBAG LIGHT ILLUMINATED, HORN NOT FUNCTIONING, CONCERN OF SAFETY OF VEHICLE.

NHTSA complaint #766173 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:HORN

AIRBAG LIGHT HAS COME ON AND HORN STOPPED WORKING. VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN EXAMINED BY A DEALER.

NHTSA complaint #8014241 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING:INTERIOR/UNDER DASH

NO SUMMARY LISTED FOR ABOVE VEHICLE.

NHTSA complaint #764040 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING:INTERIOR/UNDER DASH

NO SUMMARY LISTED FOR ABVE VEHICLE.

NHTSA complaint #763104 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:HORN

I USED TO BE A MACHANIC, I HAVE TAKEN THE DEFECTIVE CLOCKSPRING ASSY APART AND FOUND THAT THE WIRING HARNESS THAT IS SUPPOSE TO WIND & UNWIND--I FOUND AN AREA THAT WAS BENDING/KINKED INSTEAD SO IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF TIME TILL TURNING THE STEERING WHEEL ENOUGH THE WIRES WOULD BREAK. IN MY OPINION THIS IS A DEFECTIVE PART AND SINCE IT PLYS A PART IN THE PROPER FUNCTION OF THE AIRBAG SYSTEM AND HORN THIS IS RELATED TO A SAFETY ITEM.. I DID SEE ON YOUR WEB SITE THAT THERE IS AN INVESTIGATION ON THIS RIGHT NOW.

NHTSA complaint #762510 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:HORN

AIRBAG LIGHT ILLUMINATED, AND TWO DAYS LATER, HORN AND CRUISE CONTROL STOPPED OPERATING. CONSUMER HEARD THAT WHEN THESE COMPONENTS GO OUT IT MAY BE A CLOCK SPRING. FAILURE. PLEASE PROVIDE ANY FURTHER INFORMATION.

NHTSA complaint #8009183 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:HORN

ON APPROXIMATELY 10/15/2001 WHILE SITTING IN THE DRIVEWAY, I NOTICED THAT THE AIR BAG LIGHT WAS ON. AT THAT SAME TIME, I TRIED TO USE THE HORN TO LET SOMEONE KNOW THAT I WAS THERE TO PICK THEM UP. THE HORN DID NOT WORK. SINCE I DID NOT WANT TO PAY THE $70 FEE TO HAVE THE DEALERSHIP "DIAGNOSE" THE PROBLEM (WITHOUT HAVING ANY OF THAT MONEY GO TOWARDS THE ACTUAL PAYMENT OF THE REPAIR), I DECIDED TO TAKE IT TO MY MECHANIC. HE SAID THAT HE WOULD NOT WORK ON ANY COMPONENT RELATED TO THE AIR BAG BECAUSE OF THE HIGH COST OF REPLACING THE AIR BAG IN THE EVENT IT ACCIDENTALLY DEPLOYED. HE ALSO SAID THAT SINCE THE AIRBAG LIGHT WAS ON, IT COULD EITHER NOT DEPLOY IN AN ACCIDENT WHEN I NEEDED IT, OR THAT IT COULD DEPLOY WHILE I WAS DRIVING AND DID NOT NEED IT. HE CONSIDERED IT A SAFETY ISSUE. HE RECOMMENDED TAKING IT TO THE DEALER. AFTER DOING MORE RESEARCH, I HAVE FOUND OUT THAT THE PART IN QUESTION IS A CLOCKSPRING WIRING HARNESS AND THAT 124,511 VEHICLES HAVE HAD THE DEFECTIVE COMPONENT REPLACED BY CHRYLSER. I CONSIDER THIS A SAFETY ISSUE, A RECALL ISSUE AND AN ECONOMIC ISSUE. IF CHRYSLER CHARGES $70 PER DIAGNOSIS AND $250 FOR EACH REPAIR OF THE 124,511 DEFECTIVE CLOCKSPRING WIRING HARNESS/DESIGN FLAWS, THAT EQUALS ABOUT $40 MILLION. HOW MUCH PROFIT IS CHRYSLER MAKING ON REPAIRING THEIR OWN SAFETY RELATED DESIGN FLAW AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GETTING INJURED BECAUSE A RECALL IS NOT BEING ISSUED ON THIS COMPONENT.

NHTSA complaint #758604 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING:INTERIOR/UNDER DASH

NO SUMMARY LISTED FOR ABOV EVEHICLE.

NHTSA complaint #756413 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:HORN

"AIRBAG" WARNING LIGHT STAYS ON WHILE DRIVING AND HORN DOES NOT WORK. MECHANIC SAYS THE AIRBAG CLOCKSPRING NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. SAME SYMPTOMS AS NHTSA ACTION NUMBER EA01-007.

NHTSA complaint #755019 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:ALTERNATOR/GENERATOR/REGULATOR

MULTIPLE ELECT. PROBLEMS WITH CAR: (3) ALTERNATORS, WIRE HARNESS(#12), REPLACED MAIN COMPUTER, (3) MAP SENSORS, (1) O2 SENSOR, CRUISE CONTROL INOPERABLE

NHTSA complaint #753657 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING:FRONT UNDERHOOD

MULTIPLE ELECT. PROBLEMS WITH CAR: (3) ALTERNATORS, WIRE HARNESS(#12), REPLACED MAIN COMPUTER, (3) MAP SENSORS, (1) O2 SENSOR, CRUISE CONTROL INOPERABLE

NHTSA complaint #753657 — an unverified report by a vehicle owner.